[Talk-at] Nicht geschlossene Polygone korrigieren und fehlende Straßen hinzufügen

TomTom OSM OSM at tomtom.com
Thu Feb 17 07:53:10 UTC 2022


Hello everyone,

Thank you again for your thoughtful comments and questions.

We want to make sure that our contributions to OpenStreetMap in Austria are valuable, and that our procedures are transparent. For that reason, we have taken the challenges offline, and we will take the time to process your feedback.

I will reach out to you again when we have more questions, or if we want to share a new project, for which we will keep in mind the valuable input that you have given us.

Marjan

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post-edited German translation from DeepL Translate - www.DeepL.com/Translator<http://www.deepl.com/Translator> (free version)

Hallo zusammen,

nochmals vielen Dank für Ihre nachdenklichen Kommentare und Fragen.

Wir möchten sicherstellen, dass unsere Beiträge zu OpenStreetMap in Österreich wertvoll und unsere Verfahren transparent sind. Aus diesem Grund haben wir die Challenges offline genommen und werden wir uns die Zeit nehmen, Ihr Feedback zu bearbeiten.

Ich werde mich wieder an Sie wenden, wenn wir weitere Fragen haben oder wenn wir ein neues Projekt vorstellen möchten, für das wir den wertvollen Input, den Sie uns gegeben haben, berücksichtigen werden.

Marjan

From: andreas wecer via Talk-at <talk-at at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Wednesday February 16 2022 6:12
To: OpenStreetMap AT <talk-at at openstreetmap.org>
Cc: andreas wecer <andreas.wecer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Talk-at] Nicht geschlossene Polygone korrigieren und fehlende Straßen hinzufügen

Hi Marjan,

Maybe you should emphasize a bit more in the instructions, that the solution doesn't necessarily have to be to close some polygon, because the tagging could be wrong in the first place (or at least unusual). While the generated warnings are correct, it might not always be as obvious as with this broken zoo and even there you would have to separate the zoo object from the fence and not just close the fence: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/525146344/history<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2Fway%2F525146344%2Fhistory&data=04%7C01%7Cosm%40tomtom.com%7C8e8ca81998a04f83737008d9f10b3e99%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637805852868356110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=NnhlBUNfPMYB9TPJ8bViETVmzck9y6XqsDZLHEOXw8E%3D&reserved=0>

Similar to the combination I posted earlier, I've found unconventional objects with playground=slide + leisure=playground on single ways for example:

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1g2f<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foverpass-turbo.eu%2Fs%2F1g2f&data=04%7C01%7Cosm%40tomtom.com%7C8e8ca81998a04f83737008d9f10b3e99%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637805852868356110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ECOKXz4HZjp5t%2FEi5gwCJhZUCXGMfSocEMg1K6hZQEY%3D&reserved=0>
https://osmcha.org/changesets/117221727<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fosmcha.org%2Fchangesets%2F117221727&data=04%7C01%7Cosm%40tomtom.com%7C8e8ca81998a04f83737008d9f10b3e99%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637805852868356110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=H3a3GIfpsxR4eLTlqy54GFNg4SB01YPckE8JNpMMzYc%3D&reserved=0>

Contrary to the cliff example, this change from daGreif isn't necessarily wrong, as playground slides can be tagged as polygons and you could argue that the whole playground consists only of this long slide, but I'm not sure if this is really an improvement.
An alternative could be attraction=slide, which is used a few times for similar big slides, but isn't documented either: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1g79<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foverpass-turbo.eu%2Fs%2F1g79&data=04%7C01%7Cosm%40tomtom.com%7C8e8ca81998a04f83737008d9f10b3e99%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C637805852868356110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XQKgiyj%2BwT2zkQ2kXu9oxXxLY8EiacF4F%2FNn3kHl%2Fi0%3D&reserved=0>

Another thing that comes up a few times is to mix up the keys "water" (which should be an area) instead of "waterway" for streams.

hth
Andreas
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