[Talk-at] Unpaved cycleways in Austria?

[Markus Straub]

Hi Roland,

yes, there are unpaved cycelways in Austria that have the official 
signage for cyclepaths (the one for 'pure' cycleways and also those for 
combined foot and cyclepaths: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:segregated). I know some examples 
of mostly touristic paths along rivers, and I recently even stumbled 
upon paths through a forest in Vorarlberg with this signage. Also check 
for surface=gravel,.., I am sure there is more.

Regarding traffic rules: If there is a sign the rules apply: the most 
important ones being that it may be used by pedestrians and cyclists and 
that the accompanying road must not be used by pedestrians and cyclists 
(Radwegbenützungspflicht). I guess the latter does not apply in many 
cases because there just is no accompanying road as in this example: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.29501/16.42677

In addition to that I am pretty sure that not every path with the 
cycleway signed is tagged as cycleway and vice versa. E.g. all 
"cycleways" on the Danube island in Vienna 
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.25245/16.38541) are no real 
cycleways - but that's their actual function.

It's complicated, but I hope this helps a bit.

Best regards,
Markus

P.S.: what's the URL of your cyclemap? I'm interested in your project!

On 2015-05-03 16:20, Pallai Roland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on a new, detailed web map for cyclists, the coverage has
> been extended to Austria yesterday and I have found something that's
> unusual in Hungary (where I started): unpaved cycleways. See:
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/98p
>
> Can you tell me are those official cycleways marked with a traffic sign
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:120px-Zeichen_237.svg.png> in
> Austria? Do the same rules apply to those as to the common cycleways in
> the city? Are those designated for cyclists?
>
>
> In Hungary we've cycle routes on unpaved roads of course but that's
> never a cycleway, just a cycle route or recommended way for cyclists
> (traffic sign <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:KRESZ-KPU.png>)
> on an unpaved highway, or an unpaved highway suitable for cycling (but
> not designated for cyclists). If you found some with overpass that's
> just incorrect labeling.
>
> (Please CC me, I'm not on the mailing list. Thanks!)
>
>
>
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